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05-29-15, 04:24 PM
Which books do you accept as God's Word? Really I'm more interested in your reasoning?

I accept the Catholic Bible as, as far as I'm aware, the Catholic OT is what the Jewish people were using at the time of Jesus, so surely these are the books Jesus would have known? My understanding is the Jews decided some hundreds of years later to exclude some bits, and this is what the King James is based on.

Are there parts in the Catholic writings that make you think they're not God's Word? Particularly interested in responses to this question.

Also if you have any information on some of the Apocrypha Orthodox churches use, like Macabees 3 and 4, would be interested too. Thanks.

06-05-15, 10:02 PM
oops missed this, please forgive me. Will come back to this and if I do not please fuss at me. I need to look up some terminology and lately I have seemed able to forget my head even when it is in my shoulders.

06-05-15, 11:55 PM
My understanding of scriptural authenticity is that there are 66 writings (aka books) that have met all tests and have been accepted as God's word since the days of the early church and in the case of Old Testament consistently accepted as God's word by the Jewish spiritual leadership. The tests applied by the early church included authority (is this something we are certain God said, did the spiritual leaders through the centuries consider it real), Consistency (does it match up with the rest of scripture), accuracy (of prophecy for example).

Additional verification is found in that in the original languages - Hebrew and Greek- each letter is also a number and in these 66 books in the original languages every work, sentence, paragraph, chapter, and book adds up to a multiple of 7. There is not only one consistent message through the centuries there is a consistent demonstration that even if the writers had wanted they could not have produced by human effort alone. This is not the case with the extra canonical writings like what is called the Apocrypha.

I know there are some places where the additional books contradict parts of the 66 traditionally accepted books and I know God does not contradict Himself. I am not familiar enough with them to cite specifics without more net research than I have time to do at this point and I know you are as good at looking things up as I am. Personally I do think at least some of the extra canonical books can serve as commentaries and histories that can increase our understanding in much the same ways that writings of the early church fathers can.

You may find these an interesting read an the subject https://bible.org/seriespage/6-canonicity

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